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Author:  Texas [ Thu Sep 18, 2014 4:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Arkansas

Why is the EPA site in Arkansas such a higher CPM than the NETC ones?

Author:  eatliesndie [ Mon Sep 22, 2014 1:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Arkansas

Different equipment...different sensitivity. Mostly, EPA uses scintillator detectors and netc stations use geiger counters.

Author:  rustycase [ Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Arkansas


I do not agree with the filter method of taking readings.

Hot particles will be trapped on the filter, then give a steadily rising particulate count of the aggregate, which is increasing, until the filter is changed.

Well, I guess that's kinda like a lung, which unfortunately can't be changed!

I think it might be better, to see what kinda hot particles are flying by, and being logged by the geiger tube as they pass...

In this manner of logging, you can watch for trends.

With a filter, you could see a rise in activity, then back to zero, and perhaps another rise, or maybe not... ???

My opinion... any thoughts on this?


Author:  hey [ Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Arkansas

The idea of filters came from the EPA, they use filters on their outside unit too.

Author:  KingCobra [ Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Arkansas

Using the filter method also allows for the earliest detection. Using just the geiger counter, you will miss smaller patterns.

I gladly replace the filter whenever I suspect a trapped hot particle, just as I did today.

Author:  rustycase [ Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Arkansas

Tnx guys!

IIRC, there was mention, (I think by Sternglass), that the monitoring agency, at that time, had low readings that were inconsistent, for some reason...

Upon consideration, and further investigation, it was discovered the practice was to have a flat sheet of sticky paper exposed to the sky, in hopes of catching whatever fallout occurred.
It seems, this was ineffective in areas where it was dry, and dusty. Especially when compared to areas of the country that were wet, and rainy.

I'm thinking, (can u see the wheels turning?), some sort of ducted venturi, with the GM tube incorporated within, might give a good depiction of what is flying by, without the distinct measurement of arrival of a hot particle causing the count to rise, and become lodged at that particular level.

Just trying to build a better mousetrap! lol

Many thanks to netc and all who participate in providing us an option to what our well paid government agencies should be doing very well, on our behalf.


Author:  KingCobra [ Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Arkansas

Remember better detection without using a HEPA filter would require better/costly equipment. Since most are on a shoestring budget, the HEPA filter and $85 GMC-200 I use make a great choice.

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