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I am new to this site and am trying to wrap my head around the enormous difference in radiation reporting on this site vs. radiationnetwork.com I recognize that some data might be underreported, but this is ridiculous. It looks like the entire US is being completely bombarded and getting worse. If anyone could be so kind as to explain the reality of this, that would be awesome. Thanks!


Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:10 am
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jforte wrote:
I am new to this site and am trying to wrap my head around the enormous difference in radiation reporting on this site vs. radiationnetwork.com I recognize that some data might be underreported, but this is ridiculous. It looks like the entire US is being completely bombarded and getting worse. If anyone could be so kind as to explain the reality of this, that would be awesome. Thanks!


The difference you speak of between Radiation Networks stations and many of those on NETC are that most of NETC's current sites in the U.S. are really the EPA's beta stations and EPA gamma stations. All the EPA stations data available to the public through their EPA RADNET system is requested by NETC and then saved on the NETC network for everyone to see easily. On the NETC public free map, these changes are see as soon as the data becomes available to NETC.

The EPA beta stations use more sensitive gear than the private stations do on RN or NETC and all of those EPA beta stations are monitoring the radiation outside where most beta radiation will be detected.

There are some private sites on NETC that are located outside to detect the beta radiation, one of those stations is mine.

Using the information I just gave you above, this helps to explain why there is more activity/detections seen on NETC vs. Radiation Network. As for the gamma detections, the EPA's gamma detection is not done by using a geiger counter (like the private stations on NETC and RN use) the EPA gamma stations use a scintillation counter to measure different ranges of energy. The EPA have the different ranges labeled as different channels. NETC only records the data for the EPA gamma channel #5 which detects the energy range from Cs137 which is known to come from Fukushima & other nuclear plants.

I hope this information helps. 8-)

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Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:45 pm
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I'm new here, and I saw that St Louis was under Alert status because it had a radition level of 5. My grand-daughter lives there, sould I be worried? And what does level 5 mean?


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what bothers me is the overwhelming lack of public information. Not one news organization saying anything. I don't know how the government can see a radcon 5 alert and just leave it; not tell the local population about it. Nashville was at RadCon 5 yesterday, not one ounce of news coverage in Tennessee then, or Minnesota now, or anywhere. Major metropolis' are being bombarded with all kinds of radioactive particles and no one is even telling the people being bombarded that, well THEY ARE BEING BOMBARDED!!
The truth is I have tried to talk about this on FB and other places and most people apparently don't care; they don't see Fukushima, or any of the other insane things transpiring right now, as a problem.
I think it's obvious to suspect the government of 'media tampering' (Censorship with the intent to control panic....admittedly, only a theory.)
I know that Japan, the ally whose reactors are now irradiating us, has admitted to a government gag order there. (where hundreds or maybe even thousands are dead and dying.) My guess is that our socialist president probably gagged the media here 'in the name of national security', which, really means, 'The security of the 1% who are actually running the country'. You cannot gag order the media in the name of national security while your nation is being cooked from the inside out, if the gag order kills the nation you say you are securing, (By extension...if they are being irradiated, and you are not telling them, then you are not acting in the interest of 'national security', since, you know, the people you say you are making secure are actually being killed and maimed because of your actions....because of your lies, and because of your lack of qualification to solve the issue.)
The reality is, a gag order which results in the irradiation of ones' public (whom one says one is serving), is anti-national security,; it is antithetical to the claim that 'it is in the interest of the people' because it harms the many and protects the few, it is not in the interest of the nation, of any nation, to not be informed when harm is evidently upon them.


By One estimate 14,000 americans are dead already from the fukushima incident. (google it...careful of your sources though.)....and that radiation is only rising....across all of North America. If you knew a band of marauders was heading to your neighbors house to steal, beat and kill them, what kind of an asshole wouldn't let the neighbor know?
Multiply that same logic by millions....and that's the logic of the United States government.

They are much more interested in 'keeping up appearances' than they are in protecting American Citizens!!

Pray a lot.


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protestant-1 wrote:
what bothers me is the overwhelming lack of public information. Not one news organization saying anything. I don't know how the government can see a radcon 5 alert and just leave it; not tell the local population about it. Nashville was at RadCon 5 yesterday, not one ounce of news coverage in Tennessee then, or Minnesota now, or anywhere. Major metropolis' are being bombarded with all kinds of radioactive particles and no one is even telling the people being bombarded that, well THEY ARE BEING BOMBARDED!!
The truth is I have tried to talk about this on FB and other places and most people apparently don't care; they don't see Fukushima, or any of the other insane things transpiring right now, as a problem.
I think it's obvious to suspect the government of 'media tampering' (Censorship with the intent to control panic....admittedly, only a theory.)
I know that Japan, the ally whose reactors are now irradiating us, has admitted to a government gag order there. (where hundreds or maybe even thousands are dead and dying.) My guess is that our socialist president probably gagged the media here 'in the name of national security', which, really means, 'The security of the 1% who are actually running the country'. You cannot gag order the media in the name of national security while your nation is being cooked from the inside out, if the gag order kills the nation you say you are securing, (By extension...if they are being irradiated, and you are not telling them, then you are not acting in the interest of 'national security', since, you know, the people you say you are making secure are actually being killed and maimed because of your actions....because of your lies, and because of your lack of qualification to solve the issue.)
The reality is, a gag order which results in the irradiation of ones' public (whom one says one is serving), is anti-national security,; it is antithetical to the claim that 'it is in the interest of the people' because it harms the many and protects the few, it is not in the interest of the nation, of any nation, to not be informed when harm is evidently upon them.


By One estimate 14,000 americans are dead already from the fukushima incident. (google it...careful of your sources though.)....and that radiation is only rising....across all of North America. If you knew a band of marauders was heading to your neighbors house to steal, beat and kill them, what kind of an asshole wouldn't let the neighbor know?
Multiply that same logic by millions....and that's the logic of the United States government.

They are much more interested in 'keeping up appearances' than they are in protecting American Citizens!!

Pray a lot.

Hello!
I agree with all you say, however, if everyone really knew the whole truth and nothing but the truth, don't you think this would cause a mass panic? This would for sure crush the already unstable economy and lead to a catastrophe. I have also tried to wake up my family, friends and even neighbors. They don't want to hear it. I ask them, if I were to tell you some valuable information that could possibly save your life and the life of your children and family but could possibly scare the actual $hit out of you, would you want me to tell you. So far 100% of the people said they did not want to know. GO FIGURE!


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So, I am new here as well. I am seeing high readings across the USA and I guess I don't understand the readings. Are these high readings really bad? If you look at areas further south the readings are not as high as say in the middle of the country or further north.


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Hi all new bloggers
My name is Harlan and I designed this Netc.com system, so let me help you understand the numbers. First of all, the system is designed to tell when the radiation is increasing, not to tell you if it is bad or good. Only your doctor knows for sure. Second, Netc.com server calculates the NORM background radiation over a 3 month period, so when the alert message email is sent, the radiation is at least 10% higher than it was in the past 3 months. Third, do not compare one site with another because each site has different equipment, different locations, inside or outside and many other conditions.

Now the reason it was designed this way is in Japan, their sites around the Fuku NPP will always be in RADCON-5 compared to other sites. If the fuel rods break and the radiation going sky high, you will never know it because it is in Radcon-5. Netc.com does not use this method, it uses Relative mode where the NORM radiation level is created and compared to the current radiation level to create the Radcon levels.

I hope this help. Harlan


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What I am trying to figure out is how the numbers relate to health risk. I understand that each area has a varying degree of background or base level of radiation but am finding the assorted readings pretty useless. Sure a 25 is better than 400 but how do I assess risk?


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That is the questions that all the medical people and bloggers have been asking since the first Nuclear Bomb was dropped on Japan in 1945. I wish i could give you a simple answer, but I do not have one. I agree that an alert Radcom-5 in one location level is like 60 and in a different location the level is 500 for the Radcon-5, but one thing is in common in both locations - THE RADIATION HAS INCREASED, it is over the highest level in the last quarter of a year. It is easy to say, so what my level is only 60. That is correct, ask the Japanese people when their radiation was only 60, BEFORE MARCH 11, 2011. Netc.com is a warning service that tells you the radiation in your area is increasing, not if it is dangerous, let the experts argue that point. The radiation is coming, that is a given fact. The question is are you prepared.


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jimintaos wrote:
What I am trying to figure out is how the numbers relate to health risk. I understand that each area has a varying degree of background or base level of radiation but am finding the assorted readings pretty useless. Sure a 25 is better than 400 but how do I assess risk?


I am no expert, but from all the information I have learned about radiation since the 3/11 Fukushima meltdowns... it seems that many experts say no level of radiation is safe. Knowing this, it is up to the person to decide how much (of what types - electromagnetic/ionizing) you feel comfortable with. Learning the different types of radiation and their common sources are a key to understanding. Also know that the experts agree that our body receives more damage through internal radiation vs. external. With that said, I stay out of the rain or at least do not let it hit my skin. I also do not eat fish from the ocean, mushrooms and have limited my dairy intake.

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